Wayne
I drive my Super Beetle in the summer, and only about 2,000 miles per season. I change the oil in the spring and fall and when it comes out, it still looks like honey.

My point is I hate dropping that plate and cleaning a screen that is never dirty. The wear and tear on the studs and the block is starting to show. I've already had to change two of the studs to 6mm/8mm step studs.

I was thinking of installing the old style plate that has a drain plug in the center and not dropping the plate or cleaning the strainer when I do my oil changes.

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Wayne Dean
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MLTigger
Funny you say that, I just noticed my '74 doesn't have the drain plug and my '69 did.  I thought it was an aftermarket plate.  When did VW do away with the plug?
Also have you seen the nice billet one they have at MidAmerica?
SCAT Billet Oil Drain Plate Kit - Volkswagen Parts / VW Parts & Accessories by Mid America Motorworks, 800-500-1500
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Wayne
I was told that they did away with it to force people to clean the screen. When I called a buddy at my local VW dealer her told me that the last Beetle produced had the drain plug again.

I ordered the one with the plug from Mid America and they list a different screen to be used with that one. From the picture the new screen doesn't seem to have the hole in the centre.
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YELLRHD
Wayne,
The billet ones seem to hold up better than the stamped steel w/drain plug.

The stamped ones only have a few threads and tend to not be perfectly straight.


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68autobug
Hi,
Back in the late 60s and 70s, I always used the drain plug on My Air cooled VWs....
I have only cleaned the mesh filter/strainer on My current beetle...
the oil in My beetle is changed every 1000kms or less and the oil is always black and there is always a small amount of gray sludge in the bottom of the strainer... from condensation...
 
If Your oil isn't discolored Wayne, I would use the sump plate with the drain plug from an earlier model...
Its far easier to drain the oil with the plug......
 
I am very careful with the small cap nuts and studs that hold the sump plate on....
I also found that nyloc nuts usually leak, so the cap nuts are best...
 
cheers
 
Lee Noonan
 

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bumblebee73

HEY WAYNE, ALL I USE IS THE ONE WITH A DRAIN PLUG. THE GUY THAT I BOUGHT MY ENGINE FROM RACES THEM FOR A LIVING AND ALL HE USES IS THE ONE'S WITH DRAINPLUGS, MY NEW ENGINE HAS A BILLIT ONE ON IT, THE METAL ONES OVER TIME THE SMALL HOLES WALLOW AND MUSHROOM OUT AND THEN IT STARTS LEAKING. YOU CAN ALSO GET A MAGNETIC DRAIN PLUG .

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Toady

I have a 1973 Super and it has the drain plug in the center. The idea of eliminating the plug must have started in 74. I installed a magnetic plug and now only clean the screen every other oil change. If you use a socket wrench when tightening the small nuts,you can hold the wrench down at the end of the handle(the ratchet end and with one hand only)you can get the nuts at almost the torque needed which eliminates the stripping problem.It takes very little pressure on the wrench to get a good seal. Just tighten the nuts as you would a tire(one nut and then the opposite). Even when the oil looks clean it should be changed because the molecules in the oil start to break down due to heat. Y'all probably know all of this but I thought I'd just blah,blah,blah.

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CENA

Hello, I have a 1973 super and I stripped and broke one stud.  How can I take them out and where do I get replacements?  Also, is there one that is longer than the rest?  Thanks!

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Wayne
Cena,

You can buy the replacement studs from most of the VW vendors (http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VHD%2DN14%2D4512&Click=30260) and even from a Volkswagen dealer. For the ones that are stripped you'll need a 6mm/8mm oversize stud (http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VHD%2DN14%2D4521&Click=30260). You tap the case out to 8mm and use the 6mm side for the acorn nut.

BTW, I got one of those old style metal plates with drain plug from Mid America and it started leaking immediately. The metal is so thin that it mushrooms and the oil seeps out through the gasket. I put my OEM one back on the the leak stopped.
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flash

I just had The Blues overhauled about 6 months ago and I stll have an oil leak.  I'm not crazy about it as I recall the day when I had no drips at all.  My VW mechanic said he can put some sealer around it all next time he changes the oil, but he says that's a last resort as the next time he does it you have to use a razor blade to scrape all that off to get a good seal next time.  Is the Billit Oil Drain Kit from Mid American Motorworks a sure fix?

Loren R. Knapp
In The Hot Sonoran Desert of Arizona - 73 Super Beetle "The Blues."
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YELLRHD
I got the billet one from CB Performance and it works fine.

Wayne is right about the stamped metal ones they are hit and miss.

So far the billet one has held up well and don't forget to replace the copper washer every time you remove the plug.
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68autobug
 
My Beetle has the original sump plate
and it doesn't leak..
I replace the copper washers and gaskets every time...
 
If Your oil is still clean when You drop the oil wayne,
I wouldn't bother taking the plate off when you do an oil change..
 
I just remembered that I replaced My steel cover with an alloy CB performance extra sump with a finer gauze filter...
I always use gasket cement on gaskets [ Permatex non hardening]
and they don't leak...
 
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